Volume 3 Number 2

 
A Rose By Any Other Name Still Has Thorns That Cut You

Some Things To Consider. . .

        What do we mean by communication? Is the act of understanding a space-time event? What is the ultimate difference between a symbol and a sign? Is a symbol reducible to matter and energy? Doesn't language come down to abstraction? What is the difference between a concrete concept and an abstract concept? Is everything what we think it is? Is reality a subjective creation of the mind of the individual, or is some part of reality subjectively interpreted while there exists an objective reality not dependent on our interpretation? When you think in your mind are you speaking to yourself? Do you always think in words? Can you think without words? Do you think that one can be taught to love wisdom or learning? If we reinterpret the past in terms of the present, how do we know the difference between reality and dreams when we look back? How does the intellect detach itself from reality? Do we receive reality through the intellect or through the senses? Does communication unify people? What do metaphors do?


The Mystery of Language
Excerpts from Walker Percy

    The significance of language may be approached in the following way. In our ordinary theoretical view of the world, we see it as a process, a dynamic succession of energy states. There are subatomic particles and atoms and molecules in motion; there are gaseous bodies expanding or contracting; there are inorganic elements in chemical interaction; there are organisms in contact with an environment, responding and adapting accordingly; there are animals responding to each other by means of sign behavior.

    A sign is something that directs our attention to something else. If you or I or a dog or a cicada hears a clap of thunder, we will expect rain and seek cover. It will be seen at once that this sort of sign behavior fits in very well with the explanatory attitude mentioned above. The behavior of a man or animal responding to a natural sign (thunder) or an artificial sign (Pavlov's buzzer) can be explained readily as a series of space-time events which take place because of changes in the brain brought about by past association.

    But what is a symbol? A symbol does not direct our attention to something else, as a sign does. It does not direct at all. It "means" something else. It somehow comes to contain within itself the thing it means. The word ball is a sign to my dog and a symbol to you. If I say ball to my dog, he will respond like a good Pavlovian organism and look under the sofa and fetch it. But if I say ball to you, you sill simply look at me and, if you are patient, finally say, "What about it?" The dog responds to the word by looking for the thing; you conceive the ball through the word ball.

    Now we can, if we like, say that the symbol is a kind of sign, and that when I say the word ball, the sound strikes your ear drum, arrives in your brain, and there calls out the idea of a ball. Modern semioticists do, in fact, try to explain a symbol as a kind of sign. But this doesn't work. As Susanne Langer has observed, this leaves out something, and this something is the most important thing of all.

    The thing that is left out is the relation of denotation. The word names something. The symbol symbolizes something. Symbolization is qualitatively different form sign behavior; the thing that distinguishes man is his ability to symbolize his experience rather than simply respond to it. The word ball does all the things the psychologist says it does, makes its well-known journey from tongue to brain. But it does something else too: it names the thing.

    When I name an unknown thing or hear the name from you, a remarkable thing happens. In some sense or other, the thing is said to "be" its name or symbol. The semanticists are right: this round thing is certainly not the word ball. Yet unless it becomes, in some sense or another, the word ball in our consciousness, we will never know the ball. Cassirer's thesis was that everything we know we know through symbolic media, whether words, pictures, formulae, or theories. As Mrs. Langer put it, symbols are the vehicles of meaning.

    But when a man appears and names a thing, when he says this is water and water is cool, something unprecedented takes place. What the third term, man, does Is not merely enter into interaction with the others-though he does this too--but stand apart form two of the terms and say that one "is" the other. The two things which he pairs or identifies are the word he speaks or hears and the thing he sees before him.

    This is not only an unprecedented happening; it is also, as the semanticists have noted, scandalous. A is clearly not B. But were it not for this cosmic blunder, man would not be man; he would never be capable of folly and he would never be capable of truth. Unless he says that A is B. he will never know A or B; he will only respond to them.

    To summarize: Science characteristically issues in assertions. But that which science asserts is not itself an assertion but a space-time event. Science asserts that matter is in interaction, that there are energy exchanges, that organisms respond to an environment, etc. But the assertion itself is a pairing of elements, a relation which is not a space-time event but a kind of identity asserted by an assertor.

    All of the space-time events mentioned in connection with the production of speech do occur, and without them there would be no language. But language is something else besides these events. This does not mean that language cannot be understood but that we must use another frame of reference and another terminology.
 



 

Highlights from the last meeting. . .

    Memories. Over time you start to forget things. You reinterpret the past in terms of the present moment, as opposed to recalling the past as it actually was. How do you know that you remember the truth? How do you know the difference between dreams and reality? How you remember things is a part of your personality and experiences.

    What do we mean by communication? Do we mean only the transfer of information from one mind to another, or is it something more than that? Does the act of communicating entail a transfer of more than just data, conveying also ideas and emotions?

    Evolutionarily speaking, is what humanity does with language and thought merely quantitatively more advanced than animals, or is there a qualitative difference between them? If the difference is only defined in terms of quantity, then animal thought could conceivable evolve to the equal status of human thought. Could this be true if the difference is qualitative? If the qualitative difference is a result of a critical mass reached through the quantitative accumulation, then an animal could reach human terms through mere increase of intelligence. K Could the qualitative difference be seen in terms of something else?

    What is the qualitative difference between realizing the presence of danger and understanding Plato? In the one a response happens, in the other no physical response is required. And animal can recognize and react to danger, but does this reaction grow from an understanding of its mortality or from instinct? Animals have no understanding of the words "cause and effect." They have acquired cause-effect associations in their behavioral responses, but they don't know this. People see things in terms of abstract
concepts and metaphysical ideals. A human can conceptualize the perfect rose and compare any rose that they see with that ideal; whereas an animal sees only the particular rose before them (if indeed an animal distinguishes flowers form other forms of plants).

    Can there be thought without language? Does language allow thought, or can thought occur without a preexisting language? If you don't have a pre-existing language, does your mind create symbols with which you come to understand and contemplate the world? Does language affect the way you think? Do you always think in words, in effect "talking to yourself" or do you think in terms of emotion and action without a formal system adequate to communicate your thoughts to others?


Can Desire be Taught?

Can emotion be instilled? Can you be taught to love something? Is what you love a result of the experiences you have had, or is there an element of free will in what you desire? Can you control your own desires? Can you cause someone to love you? If you could, would that love mean as much to you as it would if they chose to love you? Would you really be able to call it "love"?

    Where does the desire for learning come from? You can teach a student math, but can you teach him or her to desire to pursue it further? Can you teach somebody to love math for its own sake?

    You can instill in someone the desire to acquire or avoid consequences of doing something, but what about the desire for the sake of the object itself? E.g., you can force a child to do his or her homework by offering reward or punishment, but how do you make a child desire to do homework for the sake of learning?
 



 
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